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Why Broadband is made difficult: Eircom.net and BT Ireland

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Firstly: The facts!

  • Eircom were contacted to fix a broken phone line. The line was completely dead.
  • Eircom fixed the phone line by installing a new line.
  • Eircom failed to ask us if we had broadband, they also neglected to turn DSL back on for our new line.

Due to the actions taken by Eircom they effectively cut off our broadband connection. To resolve this issue we first called Esat BT (our broadband provider). After several HOURS on hold we got talking to a technician who advised that we fill out a new line connection form. From talking to Esat BT support I am drawing the following conclusion:

Esat BT technicians are not interested in resolving your issue. They are interested in getting you off the phone as quickly as possible as this is the metric by which they are rated. (Number of calls VS time)

Obviously there is a serious conflict of interest when trying to juggle providing decent customer care and getting through 20 calls in a shift. The end result is a horrific experience for most customers, and resolution for the small few who are lucky enough to get someone who cares.

On to Eircom: We called Eircom to explain that it was in fact them who had caused the whole problem by cutting off the DSL (without asking). We had the misfortune of speaking to Lorraine (the worlds worst customer service representative). Lorraine was thoroughly useless, abusive, and belligerent. It was clearly explained that Eircom were to blame for the whole problem, however Lorraine explained over and over that in order to resolve this we would need to contact Esat BT, who would in turn contact Eircom. Procedure obviously could not be broken, god forbid. Lorraine was the quintessential call centre drone, firing out the buzz phrases of "Its a wholesale issue"....and "bare with me". You should not be working in customer service, as you are ignorant and rude.

After 15 minutes of Lorraine's drivel the purpose of our call switched from getting our problem resolved to making a formal complaint about Lorraine's attitude. We got put through to Lorraine's manager x. It soon became clear as I watched my sisters face in horror as x launched into another defensive attack, stating the problem was not eircom's and we needed to call BT (They call this schooming x). The conversation, and any faith we had in Eircom ended when x hung up on us, having lost her temper at the end of a biblical hissie fit.

Thank you Eircom, you just joined the elite of customer service scum bags

So where to now: So both companies had fobbed us off. We were left with no other choice than to go back to ring Esat BT and pled with them to help. Luckily for us after a 50 minute wait we got talking to a technician called Paul who ordered a line check for DSL. I will say that Paul promised to call me back with the results....and never did. That said the problem with the DSL looks to be resolved as the DSL light is back on!

Enter The Peace Maker: It jmust be mentioned that "nice guy eircom" did call us back to apologise for the horrendous treatment we receved at the hands of Lorrane and x. However man above, you did not apologie for cutting the DSL and causing the problem in the frist place.

In retrospect: What should have happened is this:

  1. We call Esat be and report DSL down.
  2. Esat do a line check. > Problem is resolved

Instead the staff of both companies created a nightmare for us.....and the above is our story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Reply #9 on : Mon December 03, 2007, 08:34:53
Colin,

You know you are not the first and will by no means be the last to be treted like a cabbage by the telecoms industry who thinks its in the crop farming business.

Each and every time I switch off my router BT drop my DSL requiring that I call them. they make me go thru a stupid procedure which I have done already to ensure I'm not the 'stupid' customer even though their database no doubt has a record of my now monthly phone calls.

To add insult to injury I know a little more about DSL and the internets infrastructure in general being a programmer. Plus add to this their repeated insistance that I use THEIR router (as if there is a difference) When I continually explain that I need a wireless reouter with more than one ethernet port.

I know many people bitch Irish Broadband but before I moved into my new home they were my provider and I rarely had any issues with them...plus I used voip for phones and had no line rental.

Since you ar paying eircom for line rental it is up to them to satisfy you as their customer. Either that or they need not charge the line rental... or are we now in a posistion where eircoms sole income is derived from line rental on a coppor wire system which the people of ireland paid for many time over...over the last 100 year!

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Reply #8 on : Wed October 17, 2007, 09:20:22
Hi colin,

During this whole sage (above) my mother or father actually saw an Eircom van in the area and went out to the technicians and asked them to re-connect our line. They found the technicians a lot more down to earth than the call centre drones! As it turns out we have been paying for 2 phone lines!!!! But I think given the level of service we were lucky to get one line connected!!

7 weeks is a disgrace, I hope you get connected soon!

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Reply #7 on : Fri October 12, 2007, 17:40:58
I have been waiting 7 weeks since putting in a request for a landline connection. This means I can't make calls to my daughter in UK no internet and no sky television. I have rang dozens of times with nothing but excuses about technicians being busy. How difficult is it to connect a landline when everything is in place. I think it's disgusting in this day and age that such an important item for communication is so difficult to accompolish. Please connect our landline. Please, please.

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sure thing ada :)
Reply #6 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 14:30:56
Please provide me with your bank no. and sort code, as I will need these to pay the hitman I just sent to your house......to fix your phone of course ;)

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technical difficulties
Reply #5 on : Sun September 30, 2007, 12:03:00
There is something wrong with my phone line and eircom says you are responsible.
today I actually bought a new phone, thinking that might be the problem. There appears to be something wrong with the phone line. I would appreciate greatly if you could fix it as soon as possible as I rely on my phone a great deal
my account no. is 21-23F7EG-1

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Reply #4 on : Sat September 15, 2007, 11:56:24
Well you did your job....you made up for the lousy treatment we got, and for that I thank you.

The whole situation never needed to happen in the first place! I've done a stint in tech support and am well aware of how tough it gets. That said I always found that even the most difficult of people (me in the case above) could be dealt with and come away happy if you were genuinely polite and tried to help. And unfortunately the above did not happen...it was NO NO NO from the moment I made the call.

I would expect to loose my job if I treated someone the way we were treated.

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eircom
Reply #3 on : Thu September 13, 2007, 18:36:15
look mate i agree with you totally that the companys dont care about anything we think but to be fair i was the nice guy who called you

I get paid 9.97 an hour and im irish before you go into that to tke nothing but abuse and bad language all day
i agree about that girl lorraine and her manager but mate come on y would we wanna help you if you just got on running a mock instead of bein nice we were not the guys who cut it eircom techs did we are not the people keeping your money we are not the people who bring out price hykes and regulations to stop us from just takin your bb and fixing it it all went legal there mate
to be fair about it
We do more than our wages cover eircom as a group bring out all new mad ideas and stop stuff from happining and change procedures everyday without telling anyone and then leave the agents to take the back lash with the calls
the reason you never got an apoligy over the bt thing was cause i was never even told about it i was just to told to call and apoligise for the abuse you recieved i had no idea about anything else i got thrown in the deep end

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BT - Eircom
Reply #2 on : Wed March 28, 2007, 09:14:30
Hi Phil,

Its a disgrace the way larger companies deal with their customers in Ireland. We are forced to use a substandard system in the first place thanks to Eircom squeezing the life out of older technology and milking us dry.

BT Ireland for me are the most inefficient company I have ever come across. Their customer service is a sham....and the level of technical support is dictated by the time spent on the call.

Do something you hopeless wasters!

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Eircom
Reply #1 on : Wed February 28, 2007, 21:02:36
Eircom recenty got a ribbing for this on Today FM. One of the staff at the radio station tried contacting them about a problem he was having with his dial up connection.

In this case he was given several different numbers to call whic subsequently redirected him to other numbers only to reach a dead end when one of the numbers that Eircom gave him was no longer in service!

Anyway the outcome was that some PR guy in eircom promised to have the problem fixed and also the problems of the thousands of other Eircom users who voiced their frustration through the radio show.

It's simple, like all other large organisations in Ireland they are wiping their holes with hundred euro notes so why would they give a crap about their customers when we just keep coming back for more!

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